The New Perfect Alcohol Stove: The ForeverFire Nomad

This is THE official new perfect alcohol stove. It was made from a quart paint can cut down and a 7oz sterno can.

ForeverFire Nomad in travel mode

This is my finest alcohol stove creation. Ever. I am in love with this stove. It burns for 2 hours on high. That’s an 8″ flame. An 8″ blue, soot free, flame. It burns that long before the flame starts to diminish in size. It would prolly go for close to 3 hours on high, but not be a high flame for the last hour.

This male offspring of a firearm will simmer for…I expected it to burn around 4 and a half hours. If you had told me there was a simmer alcohol stove that burns as long as this, I would not have believed you. I did not believe this would have this burn time.  4 and a half hours would have been sufficient.

This 2″ flame will burn for close to 7 freaking hours. 7. Freaking. Hours. That’s with about 8 ounces of denatured alcohol.

Hey Penny Stove! Kiss my gangly white ass!!!

Nomad worm gear fully closed

I only used 2 rivets this time. I also folded a 3rd layer into the riveted portion of the aluminum, one more than last time. It makes a big difference when adjusting the stove.

Topless >;)>

Here you see the pot stand legs and the sterno cover that makes this thing portable. Never will any fuel spill out or evaporate. You could keep this fully fueled and sealed and it would last years, if not decades.

Carbon felt wicking

You could use fiberglass insulation as well, but this stuff produces a better flame and WILL NOT burn when fuel gets low. Note this is tightly packed. This makes a huge difference when it comes to flame size. The middle is left open to aid in refilling.

Pot stand and top installed

These are the same 2 and a half inch #10 machine screws I used on the first stove.

How it looks when first started

You can see the simmer ring is opened. Whenever these are started it has to be open and you can’t adjust the ring for a minute or two until the stove (or more accurately the alcohol) gets warm enough.

Simmer ring worm gear fully opened

Hot enough to adjust!

If you don’t care about soot, you could cook on this, but blue flame is hotter anyway.

Semi-adjusted

Fully adjusted 8″ blue flame

On high.

Medium

On low

The 12oz monster energy drink that I used for the top and cap comes with a blue plastic seal, that eventually deforms after extinguishing the stove. I used a bit of cork to replace it.

Cork for cap seal, jb welded

On the original ForeverFire, I had the sterno can sitting on a portion of another can. The Nomad doesn’t have that extra portion. The bottom does get warm, but not enough to burn me or what it’s sitting on. This makes the Nomad a little lighter and over an inch shorter. For the Nomad bottom I again used the bottom of a beef stew can, but did not invert it. It happened to fit the quart can perfectly, and looks almost professional.

Beefy!

You can figure out how to make this by reading “The Perfect Alcohol Stove” on this site. One important difference is that the sterno can has a heavy 1/4″ gap between it and the quart lid. It just wouldn’t burn with the 1/8″ gap the ForeverFire required. The height of the quart can should be cut to 2 5/8″. Instead of seven 1/2″ holes, I drilled nine in this model. With the extra air flow I have to turn the adjustment knob alot less to create drastic change.

After I get my custom windscreen from www.packafeather.com I’ll stitch up a carry case for the Nomad and accessories.

The pot stand doesn’t screw down through the top like the original, which is a bit of a pain, but that’s the only con. I’ve already noticed that fuel lasts longer what with the sterno cap seal. Another important difference is that the nuts for the pot stand have to be jb welded to the top of the lid, or the lid won’t seal.

If you make one of these please comment back with your experience or questions or things you may have done differently.

Happy can crafting!

(Update)  ForeverFire Nomad 2.0

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5 responses »

  1. Very innovative design. Thanks for sharing. I’m in the process of collecting all the materials for the Nomad-build but having difficulty finding carbon felt. I’d asked a Home Depot employee who claimed to know just about everything the store sells and he’s never heard of it. Closest item I found there was carbon filters for air circulators… will this work instead?

    • I’m no fan of home depot, but that’s where I got mine from. The easiest way to find carbon felt is to go to the plumbing section and look for “flame protector”. I believe it’s made from a company called “Oatey” or “Oatley” or something similar. The important thing is that it’s meant to be placed behind what’s being soddered, to prevent fires. The easiest way to see if the filters work is to buy and burn them. If they don’t burn after the alcohol is gone then they’re ok. But carbon felt is expensive and I doubt the air filters are carbon felt.

      Please let me know if this was helpful. Feel free to ask any questions, and above all, please let me know how the build goes and if you have similar end results! Happy can crafting!

  2. Thanks for the prompt reply. It really helped me out today at a different HD location. Now I need to stop by Walmart to pick up the rest of the materials. I’ll let ya know how it turns out. Happy Thanksgiving!

  3. Hi sir
    I would like to know how long it take (minutes) to run these test:

    1 oz fuel to burn 2 cups of water. (high mode)?.
    1 oz fuel to burn 2 cups of water (simmering mode)?.

    Many thanks

    • I’ll have to run some boil tests. I know that’s the standard for alcohol stoves, but I’ve never done it because I don’t get into mre’s…I just know that it cooks real food faster than any other diy alcohol stove. The Nomad holds way more than 1oz. If I filled it with that much I could do a simmer test no problem, the issue is that the high flame MAY not be at maximum. The next time it runs out of fuel I’ll try the test under your parameters. If that isn’t enough fuel for a true high flame I’ll just fill it up and get an exact fuel capacity then run the boil tests. Either way we’ll both be learning something!

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